Re: 2nd Officer on a 767

Date:         10 Sep 97 19:38:45 
From: (Mark Radovich)
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  or MIME structure (Andrew Muir) wrote:

>In article <airliners.1997.1868@ohare.Chicago.COM>,
>   David Summergreene <> wrote:
>>I work for QANTAS as a second officer on the 767 . . .<snip>

>Is a second officer in Australia the same as in the US, a flight engineer?
>If so, what do you do on a 767?  It is designed with a two man cockpit.

Second Officers (S/O) in QF are pilots that provide in-flight relief
on long secotors/tours of duty that are too long for the standard two
man flight time limitations.  They are not allowed to be in the front
window seat for take-off or landing.

S/O's provide beer on the crew bus at the end of the sector.

The average time spent as an S/O before First Officer training is
around 2 years. So two years worth of beer investment pays off when
you have another thirty years as an F/O or Captain.

The fleets that QF have S/O's on are the B747-400 (sometimes two per
sector eg LAX-SYD, SIN-LHR or MEL-JNB), B747 classic and the B767.
S/O's on the classic are also trained to provide in flight relief for
the Flight Engineer, but only in cruise.


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